Harry Potter: Book Seven - SPOILERS FROM THE START

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Well, I thought it would be wiser to talk about the seventh book (spoilers and all) in a completely new thread, instead of the 'Harry Potter' thread.

So, I just finished the book about an hour ago! My God, it was wonderful! Best book in the series - J.K wrapped up all the questions up, with satisfying answers. I'd go as far as to say that Deathly Hallows is my favourite book out of all other books.

I feel like a wreck though. Lupin and Tonks, dead! I was so happy when I read that they got married, and had a kid, and now they're dead! They were my favourite characters! Aaargh!

I think I quite like Snape now. Actually, I think he rocks. I don't hate him anymore.

And that great little bit at the end, nineteen years on! Albus, James, Lily... great.

I was also quite happy that Harry got the chance to have a chat with Dumbledore too. And it was great when they discovered his brother!

And wow, McGonagall! She's my other favourite character (at least she survived ). I rather enjoyed the mini-duel between her and Snape. And I liked the bit where she came down the corridor with an army of desks. ;D

And good on Mrs Weasley for killing Bellatrix!

I don't think I really mind Malfoy anymore. I think he must feel a bit sorry for what he's done.

Now, I reach Voldemort and Harry's final duel. That was really good - I enjoyed the little conversation. J.K did Voldemort's end justice.

I think, at the end, where students, teachers etc all sat together, all mixed, was really quite significant - they are all united, despite their blood, race, age, occupation and position.

And cool, Neville is Herbology Professor!

I'm quite glad all the teachers survived (though I would have preferred Lupin and Tonks to have survived). I had a weird dream, earlier this morning, after I had read until 4:30am, about all the teachers dying. Anyways...

The whole rebellion thing going on at the school (the revival of the DA, and them sleeping in the Room of Requirement) was great. It made you want to be part of it.

Good on Kreacher! I loved the bit where the house elves went to war!

And now, I come to the dead...

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Hedwig. Mad-eye Moody. Dobby. Fred. Snape. Lupin. Tonks. Colin Creevey.
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Poor Hedwig! She may just be an owl, but it was a real shame!

And sheesh, Moody's death came as a shock! When the trio went to Number 12, and they heard his voice, I actually thought he might be alive for a second! I was mistaken though... darn it.

Dobby! Dammit! I know a lot of people don't like him, but I always did. So annoying that he died! That really crushed me.

And Fred! And I thought George losing his ear was bad! Why him? It just won't be the same (even though, chances are, J.K won't write any more books about HP) without one of the twins.

And Snape... well, I thought, he got what's coming to him! until I read the chapter about the memories. Poor Snape. Well, Harry must not hate him anymore, he named a son after him.

I think you already know how I feel about Lupin and Tonks! Daaamn. I guess I'll just have to read fan fiction now. I don't know what I felt when I read the bit about their bodies lying next to Fred's. I just... felt empty.

And lastly... poor old Colin Creevey! He should have gone with the other students, instead of sneaking back! I always thought he was annoying, but I feel sorry for him.


Well, thats kind of the end of my opinions. Share your own! I need somebody to talk to! None of my friends read the books (well, one does, but she isn't totally obsessed like me. I bet she's still on chapter three or something), and my Mum has only started reading it now that I've finished with it.

[primeval123]

Wow! Lupin and Tonks get married! And all those people dying! One thing, what happens to Harry, Hermione and Ron? coz i heard somewhere that hermione dies, but I think it was just a rumour. I don't think I 'll get time to read the book, so... say all of it if you want to!

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Thanks, I'll say the basics, the story is pretty complicated.

Harry finds out he has to die, because when Voldemort was defeated when he was a baby a bit of Voldemort's soul broke off and joined his. So Harry tells Neville that they have to kill the snake (the last horcrux - they managed to destroy the others, Ron and Hermione had a little trip into the Chamber of Secrets to get some Basilisk venom - the venom destroys horcruxes), and Harry then goes off to sacrifice himself.

Voldemort kills Harry, and Harry (somehow) ends up in the Deathly Hallows. Dumbledore is waiting for him there, and congratulates him on his sacrifice. But then he tells Harry, because he sacrificed himself, he's allowed to live and go kill old Voldey.

So Harry goes back. Voldemort thinks he's dead, and lets everybody know, and forces Hagrid to carry his body to the school (Harry is playing dead). Neville stands up to Voldemort. Voldey summons the Sorting Hat, says there will be no more sorting at Hogwarts, sets the hat on Neville's head and sets it on fire.

Neville then pulls the sword from the hat, chops the snake's head off (there goes the last horcrux), and the battle continues in the Great Hall.

Bellatrix almost kills Ginny, so Mrs Weasley goes a bit mad and kills Bellatrix. ;D

Voldemort gets a bit buggered because Bellatrix (his most dedicated servant) is dead. He advances on Mrs Weasley, is about to kill her, then Harry does the 'Protego' spell and protects her, and reveals himself.

Voldemort and Harry then begin to circle, Harry giving the Lord a chat on how everything works out. You really need to read to book to totally understand, but Harry becomes the Master of the three Hallows (the Elder Wand, Resuruction stone and invisibility cloak) and tells Voldemort that the Elder Wand won't work properly for Voldemort (Voldemort is using the Elder Wand) because he isn't the true master of the wand.

So when Voldemort does the killing curse on Harry, Harry does the disarming spell, and the Elder Wand backfires the killing curse onto Voldemort, because it won't do magic on its true master.

So, the stupid Lord Voldemort dies. I explained it really badly, I know, but you have to read the whole book - if I were to explain it properly, I'd be here all day.

[CaribbeanBlue]

I was somehow disappointed with that book...
First Rowling killed off all my beloved characters... (Why Lupin, why? )
Then the storyline... It was a bit too complicated in my opinion... All this running around from one place to another and everywhere finding a new mystery to solve... all this puzzles... over the top... I would have liked less running around and more concentrating on the characters... I missed parts without Harry... (Like in the previous books, where all scenes happend without him)... I would have prefered seeing a more dramatical death for Voldemort with less Harry-the-superhero He was acting just annoying with his whole speech at the end for my taste.
The thing with R.A.B. and snape was predictable but okay...
Was there a part where the thing with Harry's eyes was explained? Rowling said in some interview that we would learn what is so special and important about Lily's eyes... but I didn't find anything about it.

Yeah, this sounds like I really didn't like this book... But I did. It was a great book.
Just... I've waited so long for the last part and therefore my exspectation were high and I always knew: Whatever Rowling would write - something would not be perfect to me.
Maybe I like it more if I'll re-read it... I don't know yet but till now I still like book 6 the most... Could be changing soon though ;D
Most of the time I don't like things at first and later love them ^^

[primeval123]

Just wondering,(I know i've asked this already, but whatever) what happens to Harry, Ron and Hermione in nineteen years time, because from what I've heard Neville becomes a Herbology professor, and Harry names his baby after Snape?
For some strange reason, I'm slightly sad about Bellatrix dying, only because I like Helena Bonham Carter and I didn't want her to leave(even though she was a Death Eater)

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caribbeanblue said:

Then the storyline... It was a bit too complicated in my opinion... All this running around from one place to another and everywhere finding a new mystery to solve... all this puzzles... over the top...

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. It was rather complicated.

caribbeanblue said:

I would have prefered seeing a more dramatical death for Voldemort with less Harry-the-superhero He was acting just annoying with his whole speech at the end for my taste.

I quite enjoyed Harry's little speech, but yeah, Voldemort's death was a bit... easy. But let's take a look at everything else that happened - technically a few people killed Voldemort. E.g Dumbledore, Ron, Neville... they all destroyed horcruxes.

caribbeanblue said:

Was there a part where the thing with Harry's eyes was explained? Rowling said in some interview that we would learn what is so special and important about Lily's eyes... but I didn't find anything about it.

There was? Well, I don't think I read anything important about the eyes thing.

And um, to primeval123:

Harry and Ginny get married and have three kids:
James
Lily
Albus Severus

Ron and Hermione get married and have two kids:
Rose
Hugo

They all see Draco at the train station, with his wife and son called Scorpius.

And apparently Teddy (Lupin and Tonk's kid, Harry's godson) was snogging some cousin of the Weasleys. I think.

And yeah, Neville is the Herbology Professor at Hogwarts..

If I got anything wrong, or missed out stuff, correct me please!

[eternalhope]

I read through the book on saturday in 5 hours . I really really liked it, although I'm not so happy with the death of Snape , but at least my theory of him being good was confirmed.

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Well, if Snape hadn't died things might've turned out differently... I still don't think he's a totally good person, I mean, I like him for what he had done (working on both sides to bring Voldemort down), but he wouldn't have done it if it hadn't been for Lily.

[eternalhope]

Yeah, but even Dumbledore worked for himself and Harry fought against Voldemort because of his parents and his "destiny". This is what I like in the Harry Potter books, many characters aren't entirely good or bad.

[primeval123]

And um, to primeval123:

Harry and Ginny get married and have three kids:
James
Lily
Albus Severus

Ron and Hermione get married and have two kids:
Rose
Hugo

They all see Draco at the train station, with his wife and son called Scorpius.

And apparently Teddy (Lupin and Tonk's kid, Harry's godson) was snogging some cousin of the Weasleys. I think.

And yeah, Neville is the Herbology Professor at Hogwarts..

If I got anything wrong, or missed out stuff, correct me please!

i just finished the deathly hallows about half an hour ago, and i shed a tear when lupin and tonks died, because they were two of my favourite characters/couples, and now their kid teddy has no parents

also i found it hard not to cry when dobby died, and i didn't expect to be upset about it either.
i wonder who teddy lived with when his mum and dad died? (probably tonk's parents come to think of it)
i was really happy when hermione and ron get married and have kids(aren't we all?)and also harry and ginny
i can't wait till they do the film of the deathy hallows, it'll probably be the most exciting of them all, even if we have to wait like 2 years for it.
oh well, they start filming for the half blood prince in september and it should come out in november 2008! ;D

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I know, the movie will be amazing! Both the sixth and seventh will. Can't wait.

Well, I guess Teddy probably will live with Tonks' mum. But remember, her Dad died.

And, to eternalhope: I think I know what you mean. Like, almost every character has picked a side to fight on, but that doesn't mean they don't have a dark/good side. I think, that way, the characters are very realistic. I mean, I'm sure we're all good people here, but we all get angry, and sometimes do things we don't mean, don't we?

[eternalhope]

AD Exactly the characters and their authenticity make the books special. They act like most peole would act. For example Snape, although he didn't like Harry because of James he protected him because of Lily.

[Professor Sarah Jane]

That was what I saw through reading the books. Snape, as an example, had a different, somewhat caring side of him. Like the worst people in real life that you hate, they still care about you to a point. And there's always another side of them.

[Jenny]

Rufus Scrimjours dead as well

[JAfan4life]

stateofemergency said:

That was what I saw through reading the books. Snape, as an example, had a different, somewhat caring side of him. Like the worst people in real life that you hate, they still care about you to a point. And there's always another side of them.

i agree with u there

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Thank you, primevalcrazyalice, I forgot about him! ;D Probably has something to do with the fact that he really bugs me, and that I don't like him.

[Tish]

ad said:

Well, I guess Teddy probably will live with Tonks' mum. But remember, her Dad died.

I would have thought he'd have lived with Harry because he was the godfather untill he grew up of course.



I luved the book but i kept having to re-read parts because i found them confusing, lol

My fave chapter was the one with snape memory, lol

Strangely by the end i quite like Snape and Malfoy, which is very weird.

Harry never actually killed anyone did he? I was almost certain he was going to kill Bellatrix in it, but as u all know Molly did instead.

OMG, Crab was so weird in that room. He pretty much comitted suicide... oh yh thats someone else who died.

I found it rly sad in places!!! Especially when Hedwig, Doby, Fred, Lupin and Tonks died! - maybe some others but i can't remember them all at the moment.

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Crabbe basically destroyed the horcrux - he cast the fire spell which killed the bit of soul. So he helped beat Voldemort. ;D

Well... I guess Harry did kill Voldemort, didn't he? Well, partly. There was quite a few people involved who destroyed horcruxes: Harry, Ron, Hermione, Dumbledore, Crabbe, Neville...

[Tish]

but the wand actually finished him off instead of Harry. I'm assuming thats why she wrote it like that because Dumbledor said it could damage someones sole to kill someone (or something like that) and she didn't really want to have to do that to the main character.

[AD]

Yeah, you're right. But Harry did destroy the diary, which was a horcrux.

Voldemort was so stupid, Harry was trying to help him to show remorse so he'd be saved, but of course Voldey is just pure evil.

[Tish]

yep just a bit. I think he thought Harry was trying to insult him when he told him to try and feel remorse. lol

[Jenny]

Prof Mcgonnagol (I'm terrible at spelling that name and Iv seen it so often) was so funny. Here are a couple of her funnier lines (not in order)

"our Headmaster is taking a short break" she said pointing to the snape shape hole in the window.

"he has using the commen phrase done a bunk" she said to loud cheers.

prof. mcgonnagol came charging round the corner with hair flying out of her now loose bun with an army of desks "CHARGE" she yelled as she ran past.

[primevalfan95]

lol ;D my fave bits when she says our headmasters taking a break laughed hard.
did anyone cry when harry died- cos they didn't know he was comin back??? I did ;D

[Jenny]

I was like oh no but I didn't think he really died cause it was over to quickly it only took 7 words to describe his death so

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Oh, McGonnagall rocked. She was so great. ;D

I think, if Tonks and Lupin hadn't died, there's a chance I'd have cried/felt sad about Harry dying. But I didn't, because finding two of my favourite characters dead made me feel numb, so I didn't really 'feel' for the rest of the book. My mind was preoccupied thinking about them.

[Tish]

i didn't cry but thats because i they have to make it seem really sad at the time to make me cry and that was a bit abrupt really.

[primeval123]

ad said:

Oh, McGonnagall rocked. She was so great. ;D

I think, if Tonks and Lupin hadn't died, there's a chance I'd have cried/felt sad about Harry dying. But I didn't, because finding two of my favourite characters dead made me feel numb, so I didn't really 'feel' for the rest of the book. My mind was preoccupied thinking about them.

Don't worry, you're not the only one! I cried for ages when I found out that they were dead. When they make the film, I hope they don't make their deaths too sad, otherwise I'll embarass myself by crying in the cinema!

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primeval123 said:

Don't worry, you're not the only one! I cried for ages when I found out that they were dead. When they make the film, I hope they don't make their deaths too sad, otherwise I'll embarass myself by crying in the cinema!

I know! I will too!

[Jenny]

In the book it doesn't describe it
so hopefully none of us will embarass ourselves

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They might not have time to include their deaths...